{"id":2722,"date":"2019-05-28T10:53:31","date_gmt":"2019-05-28T10:53:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.editage.com\/insights\/on-getting-graduate-students-to-revise-their-writing\/"},"modified":"2025-01-15T06:35:09","modified_gmt":"2025-01-15T06:35:09","slug":"on-getting-graduate-students-to-revise-their-writing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.editage.com\/insights\/on-getting-graduate-students-to-revise-their-writing","title":{"rendered":"On getting graduate students to revise their writing"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"margin:0cm 0cm 10pt\"><span style=\"font-size:11pt\"><span style=\"line-height:115%\"><span style=\"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif\">I\u2019m going to add to this REALLY useful <a href=\"https:\/\/scholarstudioblog.wordpress.com\/2017\/10\/14\/getting-grad-students-to-revise\/\" style=\"color:blue; text-decoration:underline\">post<\/a> by ScholarStudio.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm 0cm 10pt\"><span style=\"font-size:11pt\"><span style=\"line-height:115%\"><span style=\"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif\">What am I going to add? A student\u2019s affirmation. As a PhD student who was <em>constantly<\/em> penalised in their high school years for \u2018unclear writing\u2019 and \u2018needs structure,\u2019 I understand the impact of good feedback, and&nbsp;<i>desperately<\/i>&nbsp;wanting to make the requested revisions.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm 0cm 10pt\"><span style=\"font-size:11pt\"><span style=\"line-height:115%\"><span style=\"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif\">I didn\u2019t just want better grades. I wanted to become a better writer.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm 0cm 10pt\"><span style=\"font-size:11pt\"><span style=\"line-height:115%\"><span style=\"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif\">Sadly, not all of my teachers had the skills to help me. I used to receive feedback that was nothing more than a single question mark next to an entire paragraph. Just \u2018?\u2019 What does \u2018?\u2019 mean? What are you referring to with \u2018?\u2019 Are you confused? Do I need to elaborate, or clarify something? A single question mark does nothing to help me improve my work. It\u2019s clear to see how \u2018?\u2019 might be poor feedback, but so are vague words like \u2018structure\u2019 and \u2018clarify,\u2019 particularly if the student does not know how to interpret your feedback. Have they been taught how to structure an assignment before? In my case, I was not formally shown how to structure an assignment until I was 18 years old, and at university. Throughout high school, teachers made assumptions that this information was taught at some earlier point, and refused to revisit the subject.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm 0cm 10pt\"><span style=\"font-size:11pt\"><span style=\"line-height:115%\"><span style=\"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif\">The earliest attempt I received at teaching \u2018structure\u2019 was a hamburger metaphor, which is fine and dandy for an 800-word assignment, but what are students to do in the case of a 1,500-word assignment? Or a 3,000-word assignment? \u2018Introduction,\u2019 \u2018Body,\u2019 and \u2018Conclusion\u2019 wasn\u2019t enough. If, and when, they did revisit the topic of \u2018structure,\u2019 it was very brief and dismissive. \u201cSo I\u2019m sure you all know this by now,\u201d they\u2019d begin, \u201cso I\u2019m just going to brush over it today so we can get to the important stuff.\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm 0cm 10pt\"><span style=\"font-size:11pt\"><span style=\"line-height:115%\"><span style=\"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif\">Structure, particularly for me,&nbsp;<i>was<\/i>&nbsp;the important stuff. I was too shy to stick my hand up and ask for the teacher to stop teaching content until I had understood formats. So, when an assignment draft was returned to me for the third time with \u2018structure\u2019 written in angry red pen at the bottom of my paper, I felt somewhat bullied. Maybe, instead of writing the same feedback over and over despite no improvement, you should&nbsp;<i>structure your own<\/i>&nbsp;feedback. Be specific.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm 0cm 10pt\"><span style=\"font-size:11pt\"><span style=\"line-height:115%\"><span style=\"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif\">The best teachers gave the best feedback, and my work improved in leaps and bounds. I went from a 65% average to a 95% average. All because an educator bothered to outline what an essay structure should look like. I followed the outline to the letter, and started to understand academic writing. Now, vague feedback like \u2018clarify\u2019 and \u2018expand\u2019 don\u2019t frazzle me because I know what those terms mean. Thankfully, I don\u2019t have to do too much interpretation since my PhD supervisors are blessedly specific, which helps me immensely when it comes to drafts and editing large chunks of writing. My co-supervisor highlights a specific sentence, and says \u2018find a quote,\u2019 or \u2018did an author say this?\u2019 and \u2018change phrasing to an academic tone.\u2019 All of these items of feedback are great because they\u2019re all something I\u2019ve missed, and things that will help my project in the long run.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm 0cm 10pt\"><span style=\"font-size:11pt\"><span style=\"line-height:115%\"><span style=\"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif\">So, teachers and supervisors: Help your grad students and be specific. If, like myself, the student has gone an embarrassingly long time before someone has sat them down and explained what \u2018structure\u2019 or \u2018grammar\u2019 means on their feedback, please be kind. They managed to get this far; in all honesty, we\u2019re relying on you to help us along the home stretch.&nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><i>Madeleine Kendrick (<\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MIKendrick94\" style=\"color:blue; text-decoration:underline\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i>@MIKendrick94<\/i><\/a><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"color:black\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\">) is a PhD candidate (Scholarship Recipient, Full-time), an Academic Research Assistant, and a Business Consultant. This story was published on November 15, 2018, on Madeleine\u2019s blog, <\/span><\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/mkendricksite.wordpress.com\/\" style=\"color:blue; text-decoration:underline\"><i>Research &amp; Beyond<\/i><\/a><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"color:black\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\"> (available <\/span><\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/mkendricksite.wordpress.com\/2017\/11\/15\/getting-graduate-students-to-revise\/\" style=\"color:blue; text-decoration:underline\"><i>here<\/i><\/a><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"color:black\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\">), and has been republished here with her permission.&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019m going to add to this REALLY useful post by ScholarStudio. What am I going to add? A student\u2019s affirmation. 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