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Warning: This post might be a rant, angry, and disillusioned. For your reading, the most \u201cranty\u201d and disillusioned bits are in italics, so you can choose to skip those, or decide to only read those for the ultimate\u00a0#disgruntledpostdoc\u00a0experience.<\/i><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

When I was in grad school, I was told that getting high impact factor papers and postdoc experience abroad was necessary in order to get personal grants, which in turn were necessary to establish oneself as an independent scientist. Fast forward about a decade and I can say that I have learned that this is neither necessary nor sufficient.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

At the end of my PhD (output: a couple of decent papers and one so-called high impact-factor paper), I decided that I wanted to do a postdoc abroad. Not just for CV-building-sake, but also because it seemed like a good opportunity\u00a0to live in the US for a while<\/a>. My husband (boyfriend at the time) and I bought plane tickets (that we had to pay for ourselves, by the way<\/i>) to interview at a couple of labs across the US. We ended up finding two positions in different labs at the same university.\u00a0A good university, but not Harvard or Stanford or UCSF, which the home <\/ins><\/span><\/span>country scientific organization apparently seems to think is necessary to give you a personal grant to go there.<\/i>\u00a0But, fortunately, we both had PIs* willing to cover our salary.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Fast forward 4 years (3 as postdoc,\u00a01 as research associate;\u00a0<\/a>output so far: 3 decent papers, 1 high impact factor, 1 still coming, 2 babies): we decided to move back to the home country, as my husband got a personal grant there, my PI had left academia, and we wanted to be closer to family.\u00a0When you go from one postdoc to the next (because my husband\u2019s personal grant still makes him a postdoc here; I guess it\u2019s the equivalent of a K99), you have to pay for this yourself. The university gave us each a compensation that was less than the cost of a plane ticket, let alone moving stuff and kids. I looked for tenure-track jobs or something like that but in the two years I applied, there were only two jobs \u2013 both of which I did not get<\/i>\u00a0(which I guess is not weird with only 3 years postdoc experience at the time).\u00a0<\/i><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

So,\u00a0I also found a job as a postdoc.\u00a0<\/a>I was excited about this job, as it was in the group of someone I was already writing grants with, I could do the things that I knew how to do, and in the meantime apply for funding.\u00a0However, it was a job for only a year\u00a0<\/b>that stretched a little longer as I decided to work 4 days a week instead of 5. After that year, I either had to have my own funding, or the PI I was working for needed to have more funding.\u00a0Both of these scenarios were very insecure.\u00a0<\/b>And, as much as I think I\u2019m competitive from a scientific perspective,\u00a0I\u2019m not sure if I\u2019m competitive from a stress-resilience perspective<\/i><\/a>. Every day I realized how many days I had left on this project, and how much of it had needed to happen yesterday, so to speak. It felt like a huge burden on my shoulders and I had a hard time finding a way to deal with this. And, since I wasn\u2019t allowed to\u00a0apply for the home country grant anymore<\/a>, the only option I had left was a Marie Curie fellowship for two years.\u00a0And what would happen if I didn\u2019t get that grant, or what would happen after those two years, nobody could tell me.\u00a0There was no money for a back-up plan it seemed.<\/b><\/i>\u00a0<\/b>And the decisions on who gets to have a position in a lab or not are based on the personal grants, so they are made by anonymous reviewers instead of people in the department.\u00a0And it turned out that some people who never went abroad but just stayed in their own university were just as likely to get them.<\/i><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Another aspect that cost me a lot of energy being upset about was the fact that this postdoc project was a huge step back in autonomy.<\/i><\/b>\u00a0For the past 6 or something years (end of my PhD, post-doc, and research associate time), I was able to decide which experiments to do and where to take a project. This project, that was only for a year, had completely been written and I was basically the pair of hands to execute it. On top of that, the two PIs who had written this small grant were now writing a bigger grant to continue this project, but they did not involve me in this writing at all.\u00a0Even though I had been writing grants with one of them, I was completely being ignored in writing this one, despite my knowledge and experience with this subject.<\/i><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

So, it was a combination of a very insecure future, the fierce competition of other postdocs, and\u00a0the feeling that nobody seemed to want to invest in me.\u00a0<\/a>Then, I saw an ad for an industry scientist job. I decided to write a letter and see if I would be competitive for this. To cut a long story short:\u00a0I was competitive and was offered this job<\/a>, and decided to take it.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

I would be lying if I said it doesn\u2019t feel like defeat to leave academia.<\/b>\u00a0It does. But it also feels like a huge weight off my shoulders to know that this job is a lot more secure. Here, if I do my work well, my contract is extended, whereas in my current postdoc job, if I do my job well it is still unsure if I can stay. Also, it is nice for a change to have the feeling that people are happy to have you, instead of the feeling that you\u2019re the umpteenth postdoc to compete for the very few jobs at the university. It\u2019s nice that when they ask you how much you want to earn and you say a number that feels very high, you actually get offered exactly that number. It\u2019s nice that this company has time and money for personal development, and it\u2019s nice that I am encouraged to choose which direction I want to steer my career into. And on top of that, it\u2019s nice that in this period in my life, with small kids and sleep deprivation and very little time for myself, I don\u2019t need to feel like everything has to happen yesterday. I found out that I just don\u2019t deal well with this stress, and I feel relieved to be able to step out of this. Not that I think that this industry job isn\u2019t hard work; it will be,\u00a0but all the energy spent worrying can now be used for something useful.<\/a><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

*Principal Investigators<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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Babyattachmode (<\/i>@BabyAttachMode<\/i><\/a>) is the pseudonym of a neuroscience PhD turned industry scientist. This story was published on July 30, 2014, on her Scientopia blog, <\/i>In Baby Attach Mode<\/i><\/a> (available <\/i>here<\/i><\/a>), and has been republished here with her permission. <\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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