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They\u2019re filled with detours, pauses, and sometimes, unexpected setbacks. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>In her <a href=\"https:\/\/m.youtube.com\/watch?v=oSz3mjN_Unw\">TEDx talk<\/a> \u201cBeyond the Numbers: Turning Struggles into Strength,\u201d <strong>Hema Thakur,<\/strong> Manager, Skill and Knowledge Development, Cactus Communications, reflects on how unfinished research and moments of doubt shaped not just her academic path but also her understanding of resilience, truth, and purpose. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>In this candid conversation with <strong>Radhika Vaishnav, Ph.D<\/strong>., Managing Editor of Editage Insights,\u00a0Hema opens up about navigating uncertainty, staying motivated during research blocks, and redefining what it means to succeed in academic and creative work. Her reflections remind us that setbacks are not endpoints but stepping stones to deeper growth.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>RV:\u00a0\u201cBeyond the Numbers,\u201d you talk about navigating unfinished research and personal setbacks. Could you share a specific moment when you felt the most uncertain, and how you overcame it?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>HT:<\/strong> Honestly, uncertainty was a constant companion. It just kept changing shape. Before I even began, it was the raw \u201cwhat will I do?\u201d kind of uncertainty. Once I started, it shifted into \u201chow do I actually do this?\u201d And later, when my models didn\u2019t yield the insights I\u2019d hoped for, it turned into the more existential \u201cwhy is this happening; why me?\u201d<br \/>\nIt\u2019s almost funny, because as someone who studied statistics, I should\u2019ve been more at peace with the idea that uncertainty comes in different forms. There\u2019s aleatory uncertainty, or the randomness you can\u2019t eliminate, and epistemic uncertainty, which comes from what you don\u2019t yet know. My journey mirrored that: some of it was pure chance, some of it was knowledge gaps.<br \/>\nOvercoming it depended on the type. When I didn\u2019t know enough, diving deeper into the literature helped. When I felt stuck, just getting into the work and setting the ball rolling made a difference. And when limitations were unavoidable, I had to practice acceptance, not out of complacency, but from a mindset of \u201cokay, this is real. How do I work with it now?\u201d That shift turned uncertainty from a roadblock into part of the process.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RV: Research often comes with unexpected pauses or reversals. What helped you stay motivated during those gaps?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>HT:<\/strong> I actually wrote a whole piece on this called \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.editage.com\/insights\/let-the-words-and-inspiration-flow-tips-to-cure-a-researchers-block\">Let the Words and Inspiration Flow: Tips to Cure a Researcher\u2019s Block<\/a>\u201d. In it, I describe the scene so many of us know too well: \u201cYou\u2019re sitting in your room charged up on caffeine (with another mug at your desk for good measure). The air is calm and quiet, and free of distractions. The conditions are perfect to get started on your dissertation. And yet, you don\u2019t.\u201d That moment of being frozen despite everything being \u201cperfect\u201d is real. I talked about strategies like dividing your goal into 1% shifts, lowering the \u201cactivation energy\u201d to get started, managing choice paralysis, and remembering your why. But I\u2019ll admit, practicing what you preach is the hard part. When I hit pauses in my own work, I often had to revisit those very reminders I was writing about. Sometimes it was as simple as shifting focus to a smaller, technical task instead of the \u201cbig creative one.\u201d Other times, it was about reframing my expectations: accepting that not finding what I hoped for was still progress, because \u201cresearch leads to research.\u201d In the end, what kept me going wasn\u2019t just discipline, but compassion for myself and the process. A block doesn\u2019t mean failure; it\u2019s just another stage in the cycle. And if nothing else, those caffeine-fueled standoffs with my laptop taught me that motivation often returns once you start moving, even in tiny steps.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RV: You mention resilience as a key outcome of your journey. How do you define resilience in the context of academic or creative work?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>HT:<\/strong> For me, resilience feels less like being an unshakable oak and more like being a blade of grass. The oak stands tall, but it can snap under enough force. The grass bends with the wind and then straightens back up. That flexibility\u2014what some might even call \u201csensitivity\u201d\u2014is actually what makes it strong.<br \/>\nI\u2019ve often been told sensitivity is a weakness, but in research it became one of my greatest strengths. Placing myself in other researchers\u2019 shoes, thinking about how they might overcome setbacks similar to mine, even engaging with people through surveys, like hearing firsthand how they navigated something as real as inflation, reminded me that resilience is not about shutting feelings out. It\u2019s about staying open enough to adapt, connect, and keep going despite the friction.<br \/>\nIn that sense, resilience in academic or creative work isn\u2019t a rigid refusal to break down; it\u2019s the ability to bend, to absorb the storm, and then rise again with new understanding.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RV: Truth emerged as an important theme in your talk. How did you uncover\u2014or perhaps redefine\u2014the \u201ctruth\u201d you were seeking in your work?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>HT:<\/strong> I\u2019ve come to see truth in research as something provisional: everything is \u201ctrue\u201d until it\u2019s challenged or debunked by another researcher. In that sense, truth is always our version, anchored in the evidence we have, but never the final word.<br \/>\nThat\u2019s why I was conscious of not letting my own preferences bias my recommendations for other authors. To counter that, I even turned to a large language model experiment on sequence and order, just to see how a machine might structure things without the weight of my subjective leanings.<br \/>\nOf course, bias is inevitable: confirmation bias, selection bias, and so on. That\u2019s why I\u2019m naturally skeptical about \u201cproven\u201d hypotheses. For example, imagine I observe that it rains every day for ten consecutive days. Can I conclude, \u201cit always rains here\u201d? No, my sample period is too small. A single sunny day would upend that \u201ctruth.\u201d<br \/>\nWhat fascinates me is how truths can coexist without canceling each other out. There\u2019s this Big Bang Theory episode where the characters are crushed because one paper claimed symmetry, another claimed asymmetry, and they thought their work had been invalidated. But eventually, they realized both could be true simultaneously, just in different ways, and that insight made their contribution even more valuable.<br \/>\nTo me, truth in research works like that: parallel, layered, and sometimes even contradictory. The challenge is not to chase one final truth but to stay open to multiple truths unfolding over time.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RV: Many readers struggle with starting or completing long-term projects. What practical strategies or mindsets did you adopt that others might find helpful?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>HT:<\/strong> My own research was relatively short-term, but I\u2019ve had the chance to work alongside long-term researchers. I noticed that while some challenges overlap, others are almost opposite. For me, the limitation was not enough data. For them, it was too much data.<br \/>\nI once interviewed Dr. James Abdey, an assistant professor at LSE, for a podcast we ran for editors. He made a striking point: \u201cIf the sample size is large enough, anything becomes statistically significant.\u201d And he\u2019s right. In long-term research, you\u2019re often swimming in data. The danger is that patterns will appear significant simply because the numbers are so vast, even when the relationship is spurious.<br \/>\nTake the example of alcohol consumption and teacher salaries. Both might rise at the same time, and a huge dataset will show a strong correlation. But that doesn\u2019t mean one causes the other. A more plausible explanation is that the overall economy is doing well, which in turn affects both.<br \/>\nThat\u2019s why one of the most important mindsets is discernment: being careful not just about crunching numbers, but about interpreting them. Long-term projects can feel endless, so breaking them down into manageable stages (what I call \u201c1% shifts\u201d) really helps. But equally important is remembering that significance isn\u2019t everything; context, causality, and meaning matter more.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RV: Your experience turned personal setback into strength. What advice would you give to early-career researchers or writers facing similar challenges today?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>HT:<\/strong> When I hit setbacks, I often asked myself: \u201cWhat would someone like Bren\u00e9 Brown do?\u201d She\u2019s one of us in a way\u2026her findings are grounded in research, and her work carries that rare balance of rigor and humanity. You can trust her because she hasn\u2019t just studied vulnerability and resilience, she\u2019s lived them.<\/p>\n<p>If I were to sketch a Bren\u00e9-Brown-style map for struggling researchers, it would probably have four points:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Permission to be vulnerable \u2013 Acknowledge the self-doubt, the messy drafts, the false starts. They\u2019re not detours; they\u2019re part of the path.<\/li>\n<li>Courage over perfection \u2013 Ship the paper, submit the abstract, ask the \u201cobvious\u201d question. Perfection stalls; courage moves.<\/li>\n<li>Connection as fuel \u2013 Talk to peers, mentors, even non-academic friends. Sometimes resilience is borrowed until it\u2019s built.<\/li>\n<li>Meaning above metrics \u2013 Remember why you started. The citations, the impact factors, the accolades\u2014they matter less than the fact that your work is part of a larger human conversation.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>And, of course, I\u2019d add a fifth: watch my <a href=\"https:\/\/m.youtube.com\/watch?v=oSz3mjN_Unw\">TEDx talk<\/a>!! Because if nothing else, hopefully it serves as proof that setbacks can turn into stories worth sharing.<\/p>\n<h3 data-start=\"813\" data-end=\"833\"><\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"834\" data-end=\"1402\"><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/hema-thakur-28034431\/\">Hema Thakur<\/a>&#8216;s journey offers a refreshing perspective for anyone working in academia or creative fields: resilience isn\u2019t about pushing through unscathed, but about bending, adapting, and finding meaning in the process. By embracing uncertainty, staying open to multiple truths, and choosing courage over perfection, she shows how struggles can become strengths\u2014and how unfinished research can still spark lasting insights. <\/em><\/p>\n<p data-start=\"834\" data-end=\"1402\"><em>For early-career researchers and writers, her story is both a comfort and a call to action: your challenges don\u2019t diminish your work; they enrich it.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Research journeys are rarely linear. They\u2019re filled with detours, pauses, and sometimes, unexpected setbacks. 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